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  Kids being disfellowshipped

  by Nikki collins in

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  so some ex-jws and i were at dinner last night talking about how some of the ones baptized this year were so young.

  a few under the age of 10!!

  can you imagine if a kid got dfd at that age.... would the congregation shun them?

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  Anna Marina

  Hi Nikki
  

  If you get a child to behave in a way its parents would disapprove of, then tell it to keep secrets or else - its a way to manipulate children. Add baptism into that equation...
  

  Its a sad lesson to have to learn but all things in WBTS apprear to be designed to make everyone stumble and nuke the powers of reason. Its quite an education, one reason not to go to Uni - why bother? You get one heck of an education at the hands of the GB.

  Why be a mere doctor or lawyer when you can be Oppenheimer?
  
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  Why do CO's refuse to strip Elders of their position?

  by Tenacious in

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  in several congregations i attended many elders were downright evil and flat out drunk with power.. many times i personally knew of things done by them that would have been a disfellowshipping offense had they not been elders.

  and even though many times these issues and spiritual atrocities were reported to the co's and hq they would many times (if not all the time), get off with a mere slap on the wrist or a forced apology.. why do you believe elders are so protected?.

  my theory is the authority integrity within the congregation.

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  Anna Marina

  Hi Tenacious

  Take a look at this Marc Cora video - go to 1:15:01 and listen to what happened to Paul. His account is only a few minutes long. He was totally stitched up by another elder who duped him into identifying those who would stand up for him.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0kTNCZLrHA
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  Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

  he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

  up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

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  DNCall - thank you for that information. Can't help wondering why he wanted to return.

  Dropoffyourkeylee - I didn't notice an eye shape, do you mean the triangle shape the people make as the camera pans out - like an upside down pyramid?

  Diogenesister - I remember the sentiment in the 70s. The decade started off with hippies who were love-in types. Some wanted to legalise LSD and call it the Holy Sacrament.
  

  Dropoffyourkeylee - there's an eye on Sammy Davis Jnr's hand in this video from 1969 which reflects the Age of Aquarius feel at the time. I remember when Neil Armstrong walked on the moom, the Age of Aquarius got played like a theme to the moon landing.
  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQSAIBD0gbE
  
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  Jesus in a Super Hero Cape

  by iloowy.goowy in

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  2. beliefs

  have you see the latest fashion for jesus in the wt?.

  he's sporting a cape, just like superman!maybe caleb can get a t-shirt with a j logo instead of an s.. .

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  Anna Marina

  His chest looks significantly bigger in an odd way. Its really puffed out.
  

  Interesting about the cape though - very Superman also a bit Arthurian.
  
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  Walter F. Salter

  by OrionLoki in

  1. watchtower
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  hello everyone, this is my first strictly historical theme:.

  walter f. salter was the overseer of the branch office in canada in years 1918-1936. in 1936 he was dismissed from that function, and in 1937 he was disfellowshipped from the organization.. does anybody know his further history?

  did he join any christian denomination?

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  Anna Marina

  Walter Salter = Judas?

  And this is said by a man who declared that cream separators the Panama Canal were proof that Jesus Christ had returned invisibly?

  I remember a pioneer telling me about the existence of 'evil slave' in the congregation. It was back in the 60s or 70s I imagine. But when she said 'we had evil slave,' it sounded like they had an uncomfortable health problem. Maybe they needed some Epsom Salters.
  
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  bullying

  by Hendrixgrip in

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  2. friends

  i should preface my comments by pointing out that i have no aversion to being disfellowshipped.

  i fully expect that to happen.

  all of my immediate family and a great deal of my extended family have moved on with me and we all enjoy a full and satisfying life.

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  Hi Finkelstein - yes and they'd march Jesus right out of the Kingdom Hall. Wouldn't give him any privileges or allow him on the platform and no answering up unless he was consesus ad idem with the paragraph in the Watchtower.
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  Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

  he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

  up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

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  Wonder if the historic WBTS association with Coke influenced the making of this commercial in 1971? With slightly changed lyrics you could imagine it being a Kingdom Melody.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VM2eLhvsSM
  
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  Walter F. Salter

  by OrionLoki in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello everyone, this is my first strictly historical theme:.

  walter f. salter was the overseer of the branch office in canada in years 1918-1936. in 1936 he was dismissed from that function, and in 1937 he was disfellowshipped from the organization.. does anybody know his further history?

  did he join any christian denomination?

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  This is interesting - so is this why they had to stop the radio broadcasts. Huh? I wondered why that was.

  Thank you for the link Blondie
  

  "That one person, together with some of his supporters, continued to trouble the Society by sending letters to radio stations and to religionists known to be avowed enemies of God's organization, and to others, wherein threats were made "to break up the organization of the Society within two years". [The Watchtower, April 15, 1937, p. 124]

  https://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/much-hated-walter-salter.html
  

  I am going to assume he wasn't on the cover of Sargent Pepper.
  
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  bullying

  by Hendrixgrip in

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  i should preface my comments by pointing out that i have no aversion to being disfellowshipped.

  i fully expect that to happen.

  all of my immediate family and a great deal of my extended family have moved on with me and we all enjoy a full and satisfying life.

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  Anna Marina

  In my experience, they don't have any bullets in their gun. They are nothing other than paper tigers and its wet paper tigers at that.

  You have to speak out the minute you discern a deal-breaking falsehood. I did and just got told I was loved. Of course they didn't mean it. They just want to string you along.

  If in truth, if you have family members who want you to stick with something so sick and silly, its like having family members who want you to remain on the Titanic while its sinking. Personally I'd rather get in the life-boat and push off.

  In pushing off, you know what the others are like - some will tut and pull faces like they are sucking lemons, but other work it out and realise you are right. Which ones exactly? The ones that have common sense.
  

  But if you don't have the courage of your commitment to walk, you stay in the trap. Then you can feel bullied because you don't have freedom of speech. Say it how it is, be polite and kind but tell them straight.
  
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  Why this obsession with Standardisation?

  by eyeslice2 in

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  the longer i am out, the the less i understand the logic of this organisation.. i thought that the kingdom hall my wife attends was perfectly fine and adequate, in fact i liked that it sat in grassy grounds, surrounded by trees.

  it probably wasn't in any dire need of re-decorating at this point.

  others, obviously, thought otherwise and so the hall has recently been subjected to a make-over.. the parking lot has been extended in true joni michell they've "paved paradise and put up a parking lot".

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  Yes Blondie they are trying get them to get in and sat down fast. It's like musical chairs, make sure there aren't quite enough.

  If anyone can't get a chair they are turfed out into a back room where they have to watch it on tv. There is zero tolerance on this, in other words, no, they are not allowed to bring a folding chair. This is making some of the usual late comers highly fed up and grumpy.

  It is ironic that before the chairs were changed, there used to be more chairs. So they have deliberately bought fewer chairs.